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Addone_Abaddon · Sep 01, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49

I think they are, I dunno why, but no matter what level a tengu is, say 2 level 13 caromi tengu can almost wipe out a party of 8 level 20s, I dunno why, they just seem invincible, and the warriors best defense (bonetti's defense) doesn't work on them, they are also almost invulnerable to any melee attacks. Everyone I know hates them, and for some reason, the tengu of cantha on our side, talon and so on, seem extremely weak compared to other tengu, talon silverwing is always the first to die after the healer.

I like a challenge, but most people agree that tengu are rediculously overpowered, and there's no builds against them.

They also prevent me from trying to get the ice breaker, I need a running build if I wanna get the slightest chance to get past them to the grawls, but there's no farming/running builds, and I can't farm with a running build.

Neriandal Freit · Sep 01, 2006, 10:51 PM // 22:51

They dont bother me, they're a good AI Challenge for me like the Jade Brotherhood members are.

Tobias Funke · Sep 01, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59

I'd like to see 2 level 13 tengu almost take out a party of 8 level 20's. I can't even imagine how bad you have to be to let that happen.

Silent Kitty · Sep 01, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Everything you encounter in Cantha is overpowered, but not invincible. Do as most people do, die, go back after being resurrected and try again. That is the strategy many use.
Tengu are pretty stupid. Send the hench in first, and than deal with them one by one. That is how my Assassin kills them. Let the hench draw the attention away from you.

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 01, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07

I try and deal them one by one, but henchmen just go out and attack

Gun Pierson · Sep 01, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

But you gotta love the sound they make.

Mournblade · Sep 01, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

CTRL + DblClick on an enemy and your henchies will focus on that one. Focus on the most dangerous mobs first (Guiles and Wisdoms for example) and kill them. I admit they're rough, but they are definatly not invincible.

Curse You · Sep 01, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon

They also prevent me from trying to get the ice breaker, I need a running build if I wanna get the slightest chance to get past them to the grawls, but there's no farming/running builds, and I can't farm with a running build.

Are you sure there isn't a build that can do both?

Mr_T_bot · Sep 01, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by Neriandal Freit

They dont bother me, they're a good AI Challenge for me like the Jade Brotherhood members are.

Jade Brotherhood AI sucks, the Knights are just really, really buff. Tengu are actually a challenge.

Dirty Panda · Sep 01, 2006, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon

say 2 level 13 caromi tengu can almost wipe out a party of 8 level 20s.

wow

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 01, 2006, 11:40 PM // 23:40

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Originally Posted by Curse You

Are you sure there isn't a build that can do both?

ooo, thanks, is it W/Mo, since it's my only level 20 role-playing characted

heist23 · Sep 01, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

If you search enough in the Farming forum, you should find a W/Mo build for Icebreaker farming. I used one to get mine, but I've forgotten the build...

Back to the original topic, Tengus aren't overpowered, they just have powerful skills that you normally don't run into. You'll find them in more balanced groups, too. They just pose more of a challenge than any other monster(s) in the game.

Chilly Ress · Sep 01, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Nothing in PvE is OP.

DeanBB · Sep 01, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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say 2 level 13 caromi tengu can almost wipe out a party of 8 level 20s

Wait, is "caromi tengu" some other language for Glint?

No two PvE enemies are a match for any average team of 8 level 20's. Even if you get defeated by them you can figure out their strengths and weaknesses and build to counter them.

If nothing else, look up the enemy that is causing you trouble on guildwiki, see what skills they use, and come prepared to deal with them.

I'm thinking these are in the Kryta area (level 13?) and there are way more than 2 coming to attack the team.

Mr_T_bot · Sep 02, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

I'm thinking these are in the Kryta area (level 13?) and there are way more than 2 coming to attack the team.

They are, and the average party size there is about 1 million.

Shadow_7 · Sep 02, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06

I can killed all but the avicara guile with my vengeful ritualist. I usually do my run from the cave and take out trolls, avicaras (except guile), giants and grawls/mighty grawls; however, no ice breaker drop for me yet

tONYY · Sep 02, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

But you gotta love the sound they make.

WORD!

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 02, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21

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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot

They are, and the average party size there is about 1 million.

I have fought two with a party of 6 level 16 hench, they killed us all and bearly lost health, I don't have a clue how, they have no healing.

I was level 20 aswell

I hate having to fight loads of tengu though, they're like assasins, real life assasins, not weak assasins on the game.

That's another thing I've noticed though, assasin players seem to be really weak (not the players, the profession), though assasin enemies, oni and so on seem to really assasinate. Even lesser (level 9) onis are strong.

I pwnd U · Sep 02, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon

I think they are, I dunno why, but no matter what level a tengu is, say 2 level 13 caromi tengu can almost wipe out a party of 8 level 20s, I dunno why, they just seem invincible, and the warriors best defense (bonetti's defense) doesn't work on them, they are also almost invulnerable to any melee attacks.

Whenever i decide to go ettin farming i usually have to take on 2 groups of 2, a mesmer and ranger. I dont have a problem with them. It really matters which you take out first. I always go for the Mesmer first since it cause degen, the ranger really doesnt do anything. Yes they are harder then some of the other enemies out there but i dont think we would enjoy a game that you could solo completely. Would take the point out of it being an online multiplayer game.

Addone_Abaddon · Sep 02, 2006, 12:30 AM // 00:30

it's the mesmer tengu that make them so hard, I forgot to mention, I was also reffering to these groups of 2 tengu, it sucks being a warrior, they use conjure phantasm, then inturrupt healing signet, which then takes ages to load because it's been inturrupted, even though Cry of frustration is now used up, the conjure phantasm is charged and they use it on you again, and by the time healing signet is charged, you're dead.

I try and run past them and stop inbetween the other pair of tengu and heal, but that doesn't always work, sometimes they're closer together and follow to the middle, encouraging you to keep running, they use conjure phantasm again and cry of frustration or make you run into the other pair who then kill you.